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Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/27/2008 8:54:06 AM   
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Hi

I've just completed my first ever video project which has come out as an hour's worth of videos divided into approx 7 minute chapters.   The videos are a series of tutorials which I want to post online for my users to download.  I've produced them in Magix Movie Edit software (all I can afford right now) and recorded them in Pal 16:9 ratio 1024 x 576 (dont mind reducing the physical size)

Can anybody offer advice or opinions on the best format and size to convert them them to for downloading?  I'm not so bothered about users watching them online - just downloading.  I want a format that the vast majority of people will be abel to watch without having to download some other codec or software.  Magix gives me these options:

AVI
DV-AVI
MPEG
Quicktime
Real Media
Video as MPEG-4 (i'd need to purchase a codec to use this one for $10 so havent tried it yet).

I was think of offering 2 qualities so the user can choose.

I tried MPEG at full scale but a 5 minute movie was over 218 megs so you can imagine I cant ask people to download an hour like that.
I also tried Quicktime at half the resolution (i.e. 512x288) and that was coming out at about 76 megs which seemed better.

I just wondered if there is asome received wisdom on this matter - this is my fist ever project and what with filming and editing etc its been a massive learning cirve and I'm proud of my vids so I want to find the right balance between keeping quality but not annoying the end user/downloader

Many thanks
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Glyn
RE: Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/27/2008 9:46:29 AM   
D. Eric Franks


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I'd try:

QuickTime with H.263 (or Sorrenson 3)

The files are still going to be huge - 75-200MB isn't bad for 7 minutes of content.

There's a lot more to this, but for now, for free, QT/H.263 is your best bet in terms of quality, compression and compatibility, however:

- Are your tutorials are mostly screen captures? There might be more efficient options optimized for that kind of work.

- H.264 would be better and worth $10, but I am concerned about compatibility. QT+H.264 would be great, but if it's a custom Magix H.264, then I don't know.


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RE: Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/27/2008 11:18:39 AM   
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Hi Glynster,
I use MEP14+ and I've used the settings provided by Digital Juice for upload to the showcase here. Here is a page that explains the settings.  I didn't have to purchase a codec.  Answer D. Eric Franks questions and follow his advice, he can probably get the file size down for you even more.
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J.

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RE: Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/27/2008 11:21:07 AM   
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Sorry, link here: http://www.digitaljuice.com/dj_showcase/encoding_guides/default.asp

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RE: Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/28/2008 1:37:04 AM   
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Glyn

I would highly recommend H.264 (either Quicktime MOV or MP4 wrapper) for downloadable files.  You can use the SUPER video encoder (100% free and very powerful, even supports batch encoding - http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html).  H.264 will require QuickTime Player 7 to watch, but it is very widespread these days and depending on your target audience, most of them should already have it.

For download/widescreen settings, I would recommend the following as a starting point:

Video
  • 640x360 (square pixels - 16:9)
  • H.264
  • 25/30 fps
  • 1200 - 1500kbps data rate
  • If you use SUPER, do not choose the "Top Quality" checkbox or 48k audio
Audio
  • AAC-LC
  • Data rate: 128kbps (if it is just voice, you can go Mono and reduce the data rate even lower)
  • Sample rate: 44.1kHz
If you run into any issues or have further questions, please let us know.



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RE: Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/29/2008 5:45:09 AM   
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Hi, Thanks guys I really appreciate your input and have taken all onboard.  There's just so many options its a bit baffling - I've run some tests using your advice and opted for the H.264 Quicktime as it priduces a slightly better result than the Sorrensen which degraded colours slightly.

I heard somewhere that youtube uses 15 fps and so I wondered what you think about adopting that?  I've just purchased a Canon HV30 for my next project (so excited - it arrives tomorrow) and I read somewhere that its better for online video sonce it can shoot at 30fps which means it can be easily halved to 15fps for online video without looking choppy.

A few weeks agao I didnt even own a video camera so tis is all an exciting new thing for me. 

Cheers

Glyn

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RE: Optimum settings for online video? -Newbie Question - 7/29/2008 6:07:39 AM   
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Personally, I would recommend using 30fps progressive.

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