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krenfrew Posts: 302 Joined: 7/29/2006 Status: offline
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I'm trying to re-render one of my videos in a format I can post on Vimeo. Under their compression guidelines they recommend choosing H.264 for the video codec. But the only choices I seem to have are H.263 and H.261. I am running Vegas Pro 8 and have all the latest updates. Am I missing something here? Is this a Windows-as-opposed-to-Mac thing?
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Zelkien69 Posts: 471 Joined: 12/7/2006 From: Louisville, Ky Status: offline
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Love to see the work so send a link. What you'll want to use is the sony AVC/ACC. Set your video size to 1280x720 and Vegas does a much better job with the 24p coversion that vimeo so go ahead and reder it at 24p. Also go as high as possible on the encoding rate (variable). I set my 3-4 minute videos at 6,000,000 max with a 5,000,000 average. Leave sound as default. If you need anything else ask and the Juice shall be yours.
_____________________________ It's not that I don't know how to do it. It's when I click this button it doesn't work. Wait, did that just flash. Oh God...it's smoking. (in reply to krenfrew) |
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nitinp Posts: 1379 Joined: 2/25/2005 From: India Status: offline
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Hi Karen, to get H.264 you have to make sure you've installed the latest version of Quicktime. Hope that helps. _____________________________ Nitin (in reply to Zelkien69) |
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krenfrew Posts: 302 Joined: 7/29/2006 Status: offline
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Now I'm thoroughly confused...  It's not an HD video, so I'm assuming I need to use 640 x 480 instead of 1280 x 720. But are you saying that the videos that get streamed over the internet are at 24p? That's a good thing to know, because you're right, I would definitely rather go ahead and convert it myself. Under the Sony AVC render, I'm not seeing any min/avg/max choices on the bit rate. I can set it to whatever number I want (trying 6,000,000 now), but I don't see anything to indicate whether that is variable or not. I've included a screen shot here of what my default settings are and what I'm trying now. Do you see anything else that needs changing? I checked my QuickTime, and it is already up to date. I can see the H.264 option there, but not in Vegas. Thanks, guys! Thumbnail Image   Attachment (1)
_____________________________ Karen Nashville, TN (in reply to Zelkien69) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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QT won't do H.264 in Windows apps for one reason or another, so use the Sony AVCHD codec or the Main Concept one (the Sony one seems to hang every now and again for me, so I tend to go Main Concept more often than not). I think the Main Concept codec has more options, to, including VBR and datarate low/high contraints like Charles suggests. 6Mbps is fine - depending on how long your video is. Should give excellent results in SD, but feel free to bump it up as high as you want and still come in under the 500MB ceiling. And for 29.97 NTSC SD source, I'd render at 640x480@30p for Vimeo. And yes: always safer to do the conversion yourself frame-size, frame rate and deinterlacing. I actually work at camera-native resolutions while editing (for speed and convenience), then switch to distribution-format project settings for final checks, corrections, sweetening and renders. Since the final render settings match the project settings, there are fewer rendering "surprises" at the end of the day. _______________ "Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television." -- Archie Bunker http://videopia.org < Message edited by D. Eric Franks -- 11/4/2008 1:41:52 PM > (in reply to krenfrew) |
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krenfrew Posts: 302 Joined: 7/29/2006 Status: offline
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So render at 30p instead of 24? Is Vimeo translating it to 24 after I upload? 30 is not one of the preset options, but I can type it in. I also have a question on the deinterlacing. My default is set to "Blend fields." I also have a choice of "Interpolate." Vegas is telling me the Blend fields option is better for high-detail, low-motion video and the Interpolate option is better for high-motion, low-detail. This is a music video that is made up of mostly old home movies that were transferred several years ago from reels to Super-VHS, which I have now transferred to digital. Obviously there is not a lot of high, sharp detail in these, so I was wondering if I would do better to use the Interpolate option for the deinterlacing. _____________________________ Karen Nashville, TN (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Yea: Vimeo does 30p for SD, 24p for HD (and I think it does 24p for SD too, but I'm not sure). For a general overview: I did a video on de-interlacing a few months ago that might be interesting: The Joy of Interlacing. You can actually see the three de-interlacing methods in the example with the ball. For you Vegasites: Sorry about the crappy blend versus interpolate thing: I probably wrote that. Not very helpful although it is at least partially true. - Interpolate throws one field away, doubles the other to create the half-resolution frame. It's not as bad as it sounds and might look the best, depending on the footage. - Blend combines the two fields together. You get your full resolution, but you'll see stairstepping and interlacing lines on the edges of fast moving objects. So, usual better for high detail, low motion. Ultimately, the best method is the one that looks the best, with one caveat: since no one is looking at single, frozen frames of video, you shouldn't judge the quality by looking at a single, frozen frame. For example, "Blend" will show artifacts on frozen frames, but the video might look just fine running at full speed. One Tip: Toggle the Preview Window to Best to see the actual output. I toggle it on and off when judging de-interlacing methods and the do a Shift+B RAM render for high-motion sections of video. _______________ "Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television." -- Archie Bunker http://videopia.org (in reply to krenfrew) |
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