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Brad B. Posts: 32 Joined: 11/9/2007 Status: offline
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I do alot of video work in smaller auditoriums and shoot with a Panasonic Ag-dvc30. I'm having problems getting good crisp video. If i set the white balance while zoomed in the video looks good but when I zoom out, it overexposes everything. Anyone have any tips? I am new to manual settings so any tips would help. Also is there any good dvd's out that would help understanding all of the manual settings? thanks Brad |
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bbeanan Posts: 1104 Joined: 3/18/2007 From: Las Vegas Status: offline
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All you can really do is ride your iris wheel... traditionally when I shoot shows unless I have a GREAT camera operator I set these on manual: Gain = 0 Shutter = 60 White Bal = set to a warm card These I put on auto Focus = Fast (sometimes I will put on manual and make sure my operator knows where the button is to engage the auto for a quick focus.) Iris = Auto I use a Sony Z1u so not sure exactly what settings your camera has. Also if you are only shooting with 1 camera try and limit how much you zoom in and out that is one giveaway as to pro or not... I ALWAYS shoot with at least 2 cameras and most of the time I will shoot the show with the 2 cameras on 3 nights and mix them together... and I would say most of the time you never actually see a zoom happen I just cut to the shot... (granted if it works with the scene or music you will see a slow push or pull) anyway just my 2 cents... _____________________________ ================= Brett Beanan Own it... ahh I give up.. Own a bunch (in reply to Brad B.) |
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Brad B. Posts: 32 Joined: 11/9/2007 Status: offline
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Thanks for the info! Right now all I have is one 3ccd camera. I do have a AG-dvc7 but I don't like mixing the 2 because of the image difference.
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bbeanan Posts: 1104 Joined: 3/18/2007 From: Las Vegas Status: offline
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Well I do not know what you are shooting but if possible shoot rehersals, multiple shows... In the past I have made 2 cameras look like 16 (shot the same show 8 times each time moving the cameras, going handheld and so on) that way if one shot is blown out then hopfully another shot is good (and believe it or not even when I have really had 12 cameras with 3 taped shows (so a 36 camera shoot edit) I some how still ended up a few times with no shot go figure)
_____________________________ ================= Brett Beanan Own it... ahh I give up.. Own a bunch (in reply to Brad B.) |
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mptribe Posts: 4460 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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Another thing to consider is how far do you want to be zoomed out? We shoot our church's service every week with 4 manned cameras and 1 stationary drum camera and we always use all manual settings. I disagree that zooming in and out should be avoided on a live performance, because if it is done properly it can really add to the excitement of the performance, especially if it is a concert/music perfromance. We very rarely show zooms when the pastor is up or there is just talking, but during the musical portion of worship we do it a lot, because it adds to the video. We also try to avoid zooming all the way out and having a really wide shot. we do this for a couple reasons; One, all of our services go online and if you zoom all the way out it is really tough to see people on a small window on the computer and another reason is we want the viewer to be focused on the stage and not the audiance. We also darken the room other than the stage lights and two large screen TVs. If you have access to a waveform monitor, that will help you determine if your lights are set to bright (or your IRIS is opened too much). We use the one that comes on the VT[4] system. Most NLEs have them too and if you Adobe OnLocation, that is a great piece of software to help with that. As far as our setup, we zoom in on the white board that we use to white balance and then pull out for our shots. I white balance on the pastor's lighting set because it has less lights with gels and I get a better white balance and it helps preserve the colors that are used during the music. We have challenges and by no means are we experts, but that is what works for us. If you would like to see some of our videos, click the link in my signature and go to Worship Live and pick a week. We encode everything to Windows Media format. Good luck. _____________________________ Marc (in reply to bbeanan) |
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bbeanan Posts: 1104 Joined: 3/18/2007 From: Las Vegas Status: offline
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On zooming I was more saying that a lot of the time when people first start shooting they tend to zoom in and out almost non-stop and almost alway fast in and out. A great way to learn is well... watch TV find a simular show on tv and really watch the camera movements and edits... you will find when done right you barely notice the edit _____________________________ ================= Brett Beanan Own it... ahh I give up.. Own a bunch (in reply to mptribe) |
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bbeanan Posts: 1104 Joined: 3/18/2007 From: Las Vegas Status: offline
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oh and the VT4 (well VT5.2b now) is a great system I own a bunch of them (I am a elite dealer for NewTek, and help take care of all of their tradeshow booths for them (granted I do not design them only execute their designs... that is my disclaimer))
_____________________________ ================= Brett Beanan Own it... ahh I give up.. Own a bunch (in reply to bbeanan) |
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mptribe Posts: 4460 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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Yes the key to the zooming in and out is slow to medium rate and really smooth, otherwise it looks bad and is distracting. Sometimes we do zoom to fast, but that's what you get with volunteers running the cameras that don't have the experience to control the zoom properly.
_____________________________ Marc (in reply to bbeanan) |
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Charlie Burket Posts: 251 Joined: 9/18/2007 Status: offline
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Varizoom and other companies (Bebob, Bogen) make zoom/ focus controls that allow you to make quick adjustments to zooms, focus and iris / and (potentially slow zooms if your camera servos are sensitive enough) over the LANC cable or camera control port on your camcorder. This is an invaluable piece of equipment if you are doing alot of live event shooting where you have to constantly "ride" the iris or change focal lengths. I have two of them for this purpose and they are great. Also, turn on zebras and set them to 100 if you want to make sure you don't have much overexposure. Camera LCD monitors are not reliable for much these days with regards to what your actually getting. (in reply to mptribe) |
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mptribe Posts: 4460 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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I have two for my Sony Cameras. They don't have the iris on them, but they do have 3 zoom speeds and focus controls along with a record/stop button. We have simple ones for the Panasonics at church that just do the zooms, but there is still only one setting and it is how much you push on it. Good tip on the zebras, I had forgotten about that and we need to start using that at church. _____________________________ Marc (in reply to Charlie Burket) |
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Brad B. Posts: 32 Joined: 11/9/2007 Status: offline
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I have actually been thinking about getting a zoom control for my camera. They usually don't have multiple show or a full rehearsals (i wish they would), and alot of times contact me at the last minute. I also hate it when they use those big bright spotlights. I will try to upload some video this weekend of the pageant I just shoot and let ya take a look at it and see what ya think. thanks Brad (in reply to mptribe) |
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Charlie Burket Posts: 251 Joined: 9/18/2007 Status: offline
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dang. I checked to see. Your camcorder mentioned above only supports zoom control and not focus or iris. The zoom control is an essential piece of gear when doing live events, it would be cooler if it had the other features.... but, its still a good thing to have. (in reply to Brad B.) |
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bbeanan Posts: 1104 Joined: 3/18/2007 From: Las Vegas Status: offline
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I would save every penny to get a second camera... check eBay and such. That way you have a backup and a good lock down shot. _____________________________ ================= Brett Beanan Own it... ahh I give up.. Own a bunch (in reply to Charlie Burket) |
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