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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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Hello, I use Sony Vegas 9 and DVD Arch 4.5. I just recently purchased a Bluray player. Since I have one of the first generation HD TV's I don't have an HDMI input on it. only "Color Stream". When I watch "Hollywood" DVD's movies on it I see the black bars at the top and bottom, widescreen, as it should be. When I watch one of my own DVD's, rendered to NTSC Wide screen, it stretches the video to the full screen. I film in HDV. For the clients that want DVD, I render out to MPEG2, DVD Arch NTSC Wide Screen 720 x 480. When I play it on a regular DVD player it plays correct. Why does the "Hollywood" DVD's play correctly on the Bluray player and mine don't? Any ideas? I see this with projects rendered in Vegas 8 or 9. Adam _____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Your HD TV is 16:9 (I assume) and so is a widescreen 720x480 DVD: it should fill the screen. "Hollywood" DVDs are often NOT 16:9 and are usually much wider at 2.4:1 (16:9 converts to about 1.37:1 - yea, it'd be great if everyone would standardize at least how we talk about this stuff). 2.4:1 movies on a 1.37:1 screen will have black bars top and bottom (letterboxing). Some movies are even wider, with aspects of 2.76:1 (e.g., Ben Hur, Lawrence of Arabia), so I suspect everything is normal. I could be misunderstanding your problem, however. When you say "When I play it on a regular DVD player it plays correct." - How are you watching it (on what TV)? More peripherally here (with lots of great illustrations): Pixel Aspect Ratio: The More Things Change and in my book starting on page 197. < Message edited by D. Eric Franks -- 7/6/2009 8:03:07 PM > (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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I'm sorry, when I watch it on a standard TV it looks correct. 16x9, black bars top and bottom. When I watch my burnt DVD's on the new Bluray on the HD TV, it stretches the picture but not a store bought DVD. _____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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DamonHan Posts: 1096 Joined: 8/31/2006 From: Evansville, IN Status: offline
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are you saving your video out at 720x480 or 1280x720 or higher?
_____________________________ Damon Hancock http://www.fatheadmedia.com http://www.onelifenetwork.in (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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AdrenalineMP Posts: 625 Joined: 12/18/2007 Status: offline
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Maybe it is a menu setting in the Blue Ray player itself you need to adjust for it to display your standard def widescreen dvd properly. If there is nothing in there that fixes it then, process of elimination seems to leave only your standard dvd burning process -- i.e, a switch or setting needs adjustment in your authoring software.
_____________________________ Sam (in reply to DamonHan) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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I have the Bluray set to Auto on choosing the resolution. I've even told it to play 720. When in Auto mode, it looks at HD movies and set's itself accordingly. When it see's a store bought DVD it changes to it's wide screen mode. When it see's a home burnt DVD it stretches to full screen. I'm rendering MPEG2 DVD Arch NTSC Wide Screen 720x480 Best resolution. Process of elimination seems to point to the way I'm rendering playing it through the color stream of the Bluray , that's why I started the post. When my DVD's are played on a standard DVD player, playing through a SD TV, everything looks fine. When I play through my Bluray, through the "color stream" into my HD TV, it stretches the picture. I'm going to try it on my brother in laws player and TV. His has the HDMI inputs. Will let you guys know what happens. Thanks, Adam _____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to AdrenalineMP) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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quote: OK, I'm still not clear, but closer. - Your 16:9 SD-DVD shows black bars top and bottom on a 4:3 television, as it should. - Your 16:9 SD-DVD fills the screen on a 16:9 HDTV (no black bars, runs full left-right/top-bottom), as it should. - Hollywood (store-bought) DVDs don't fill the screen and show letterboxing, as they should for wider than 16:9 content. The only part that sounds like a problem is that you say your DVD is "stretched" - obviously broken, but if it is merely filling the 16:9 screen, then that is how it is supposed to look. __________ Even if I set out to make a film about a fillet of sole, it would be about me. -- Federico Fellini -- http://videopia.org * This is entirely normal and what you should be seeing. Top is a 16:9 video of mine (1.37:1 aspect), bottom is a Bollywood movie, probably with a 2.4:1 aspect, maybe wider...   Attachment (1)
< Message edited by D. Eric Franks -- 7/7/2009 10:42:59 AM > (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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AdrenalineMP Posts: 625 Joined: 12/18/2007 Status: offline
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One more question concerning the TV that hasn't been mentioned. It is an HD tv but, is it a 16:9 or 4:3 format screen? For instance, one of my tv's is an early model HD but, with a 4:3 format. Next, I've still got to believe that there is something broken in the authoring process. If your store bought wide screen 'holywood' dvd's display correctly (through the BR player) then, so should your home authored wide screen dvds. They should behave identically. The whole 'color stream' thing shouldn't make a difference. There must be a flag (that your blue ray player is looking for) that is not being set properly on your burned dvds. Your next step is the right one -- check the disk on another blue ray player/tv combo. You might also take your own blue ray player to your brother in law's house and plug it into his tv too. One last step to determine the impact of the 'color stream' thing would be to try his player on your tv. You might also take your dvd to a local electronics store and try it out there. Good luck. _____________________________ Sam (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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mptribe Posts: 4460 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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Adam, You mentioned that you are using DVDA 4.5, but your signature line says DVDA 5.0. I know v5.0 has Blu-Ray support in it, even though I know you are burning an SD DVD, maybe it handles it better. Just an idea. _____________________________ Marc (in reply to AdrenalineMP) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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DVD Arch 4.5 does support Bluray. I was in the middle of a project and didn't want to load up version 5. I'm doing so now with this new project.
_____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to mptribe) |
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