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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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I am wondering when Juicer 4 is going to be available and whether or not it is going to address the issues I now have with Juicer that make me want to put my fist through my monitors. When I load Juicer now, it takes maybe FIVE minutes to fully load and be responsive. When I click on JuiceDrops, an index takes as much as TWO MINUTES to load JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT IS AVAILABLE. If each Volume takes ONE minute, that's 70 minutes of my time that I must invest just to look at my avails. THAT'S TOO LONG! Working with Juicer has become so loathsome and frustrating that I am making my own indexes from screen captures of online resources on the DJ website (I would have done the same with JDrops if I thought of it before they were retired and the pages were deleted from public view.) Today I needed to find a JuiceDrop used in a three year old project. I've invested nearly 30 minutes before I reached my limit on frustration, closed down ALL my applications, relaunched Juicer and still find that it is slow as hell. This is a major issue and something must be done to streamline our ability to just look at an index. I am not rendering anything, will likely NEVER render anything (other than Fonts... and I hold my breath doing them lately), and find myself resisting using my resources because they are just too difficult to review with Juicer. With such awesome offerings, too many people are passing on Dj because they must use the Juicer. If I had a business, I would do all I could to minimize client frustrations, yet Juicer is getting worse with each addition that must be loaded into it. Perhaps a review of what is going to happen with Juicer 4 would be in order. I have literally THOUSANDS of dollars invested in resources that are growing too difficult to use. Since I know at least three people who do not use DJ products anymore because of the Juicer, I would think somebody should be putting on a thinking cap about how to make the thing more user friendly. I have to believe that Juicer 4 will be. What is happening to make life easier for us? < Message edited by deano2222 -- 2/25/2011 11:48:14 AM > _____________________________ dean |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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I am downloading yet another recent update of Juicer. Hopefully this will fix the issue that the thing works in ultra slow motion. According to the Juicer promo text, most thumbnails are preloaded. Then why does my hard drive work so hard each and every time I click on a new JD volume? I hope folks don't see me as a Juicer Basher, but I think we have some real issues here that impede our ability to efficiently work with the resources in which we have so heavily invested. The slowness is not acceptable. The fact that I must click a ETKpro Single THEN click on SD or HD to see thumbnails is just silly. Taking 60 seconds to see an index of JDrop volumes makes me want to hang myself. I have work to do and don't have all day to fart around. I want to quickly review what is available, even some of the things I DON'T yet own. Juicer is frustrating folks to the point they just don't want to bother with it all. I don't believe I am alone here and have supported DJ in these forums and over the years with my Credit Card. I believe we have real issues. I've even talked with CS about the slowness and keep hearing that future versions of Juicer will address many of my problems, and the problems of my esteemed colleagues. So what's happening. _____________________________ dean (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Since I know many folks are concerned that I am about to have a stroke, I wanted to update the situation with the slow functionality of Juicer: The new and latest Juicer download and reload has restored the speed I need. I still scratch my head about having to always reload Juicer, but must give credit those who make the upgrade "one click" easy. And I didn't lose DJ Fonts Vol 7 like I usually did on the last few upgrades (another reason I am hesitant to even open the Juicer anymore). The slowness of Juicer is a recurring problem about which I have talked with CS on more than one occasion. I still believe that a review of what Juicer 4 will do might be good for those of us who will rely on it. Nothing proprietary, of course, but what is coming and when would be very nice to keep the troops informed. I'd love to see a fast and reliable index system to just look at the stuff we have and even the stuff we don't. Forget the HD/SD nonsense and let us click on a library and see what's there. How about a Juicer Lite JUST for index review (no searchable words needed in this version)... and/or JUST a DJ Fonts version so I only load it when I need to do some text from the DJ Fonts Library. Even a Graphics prefernce and an Animation preference. (I personally do not need to see the animations and animators will not need to see the static files). And how about letting Juicer communicate with your account info to indicate what resources you own. I am sure these matters are being considered and have been proffered by other whiners in the past. I hate to whine and cry, but I think folks see my points. _____________________________ dean (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Closed Juicer and then realized I needed to snag something else. Relaunched and it's slower than snails again. Guess the key is to reinstall the thing each time I need to use it. Yeah, like that's gonna happen. I think Juicer doesn't like having any other programs open. Oh, wait a minute, maybe I need to restart each time I want to look at an index and launch Juicer first so nothing else affects it. Guess I need to buy an iMac and have it running Juicer only next to my monster G-5 Mac. Frustration? You bet. Why have the stuff if it causes this level of frustration and, now, anger. FOR THE RECORD: I HAVE RESTARTED MY MACHINE AND LAUNCHED ONLY JUICER. STILL SLOW AS HELL. < Message edited by deano2222 -- 2/25/2011 2:01:33 PM > _____________________________ dean (in reply to deano2222) |
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DamonHan Posts: 1096 Joined: 8/31/2006 From: Evansville, IN Status: offline
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Hey Dean what are you running the Juicer on?
_____________________________ Damon Hancock http://www.fatheadmedia.com http://www.onelifenetwork.in (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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It's a Mac G-5, the workhorse of them all. Even when I quit all other programs, the Juicer slugs along, BUT it does work on the very first installation of Juicer's update. Only when I close and reopen does it then bog down. I've talked with Kevin at tech support and I've done all the trashing of the prefs and all, but it still slugs along. When I launch Juicer after the first time, it polls the internet and acts like it is downloading scores of stuff. But it should already have the thumbnails locally, especially after the upgrade when it downloads a bunch of stuff then. I am waiting for Ben to call, but we've dance that dance before. It was fixed when I upgraded, only to bog down later. I ONLY try to use Juicer to look at the JuiceDrop thumbnails, but at 1-2 minutes per volume to load, I just don't have an hour to deal with it. It is really getting silly that Juicer is that necessary to look at simple index index. I'm really going to rethink if I want to continue down the DJ path with this kind of frustration. _____________________________ dean (in reply to DamonHan) |
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kauai Posts: 199 Joined: 5/6/2009 Status: offline
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I feel for you, Dean. Fortunately for me, the Juicer works well (knock on wood) on my Windows 7 64bit machine. Startup takes maybe 5 - 10 seconds and I'm able to freely browse with no hangups. You've been one of DJ's strongest and most vocal supporters for years, and for you to be at this level of frustration really says something. Hopefully someone from DJ responds soon. _____________________________ Eric (in reply to DamonHan) |
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harryt Posts: 123 Joined: 12/21/2009 Status: offline
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quote: It's a crazy situation Deano, and your unproductive downtime is costly. You are lucky as you mainly deal in Juicedrops, and not all the video/music stuff. So, as a suggestion, why not strip your juicer of all your stuff, except the FONTS. Then make directories on yer hard-drive and place all your Juicedrops into them. Finally, use any viewer of your choice, to simply view it all, instantly. I always have used Adobe Bridge. The time you spend complaining about all this, your Juicedrops can be copied in a matter of hours. What's the point of struggling with it all ? Maybe your juicer won't improve dramatically, but at least you will only have the fonts to contend with. Awaiting the next appearance of the Messiah (Juicer 4.0) won't necessarily take you to Heaven either. Good luck. I believe you may need some. Regards from Harry (in reply to deano2222) |
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Jerry Butler Posts: 4 Joined: 2/22/2011 Status: offline
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Hey Dean, Bummer of a problem. As a thought, are you previewing the volumes locally from you drive or are you looking at them from the internet? Maybe switching from one to the other might help. Hope you find a solution soon. I'd have torn my hair out by now if I had to deal with that. Jerry (in reply to harryt) |
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Me Posts: 86 Joined: 4/23/2008 From: Sydney, Australia Status: offline
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Hi Deano I was having a similar problem this morning with textures 1 & 2 no previews so i went to file > restore installed products and chose my external hard drive where I have installed my juicer catalog. The previews came up for textures 1 when I went to textues 2 no previews so I repeated the step up above then it worked. I Tired again sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. (in reply to Jerry Butler) |
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David Hebel Posts: 3992 Joined: 4/24/2003 From: Currently in Bangalore, India Status: offline
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Dean, I'm fairly sure your issue might need to be troubleshooted on the phone with tech support as what you are describing in terms of having to reinstall all the time to get it working speedily. For what you are trying to do with Juicer you should be experiencing any issues. As for Juicer 4 it's coming along and looking great. It won't have all the bells and whistles of Juicer 3 but in most ways it will be much superior. Dave (in reply to Me) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Thanks all for your responses. I have been, am, and will likely always be, a fan of the DJ products. Juicer, not so much these days. If a product is closely dependent on Juicer, I think I will need to join so many others I have met who simply pass on a product. Fortunately, most products I use can be opened directly and I can look through the online listings to see what I want. There are just too many things I don't need which must load up. My work has been elevated to the highest level ever. Clients expect my work to exceed the highest levels each and every time. So when I need to wrestle with the Juicer for 4-5 hours to find a file that should have taken 15 minutes, that is -- as Harry so articulately put it -- costly in downtime. And Yes, Jerry, I have the previews set for local viewing, yet my hard drive labors and I even see the web icon in my dock open as though each and every thumbnail is being polled via the internet each time I fire Juicer up. And Hello Donna from Down Under (You should know Harry. Cool guy from Oz as well). I am thinking that Tech Support will walk me through a bunch of stuff, and hope they can do it. Kevin had to pass the issue along to Ben who called after I had to leave Friday. David, nice to see you here. I am not too sure Ben will figure this out. I am hopeful and will obey his every command, as I really want to not have such trepidation each and every time I launch the Juicer. He and I talked once before about this very same issue with a former version of Juicer. He was stumped. I downloaded a new build of Juicer and it worked for a while. Now, we are ready to do this again. UUuuugh. I literally tremble when my monster 40-page quarterly magazine comes at me knowing how much I rely on the simply awesome DJ Fabu-Fonts. (I still like that name, LOL). Regarding the monster newsletter, I am so worried about the stability of Juicer that I am considering NOT renewing my contract for it... which would mean I lose 50-60 percent of my income. I have Juicer installed on my home machine, but that's three miles away from my office, so when I have issues at the office, I come home. That shouldn't be. Maybe I need to consider the purchase of a free-standing iMac JUST for the DJ products? Seems like a lot of money to address this issue. I implore you to offer alternate index files for products so that folks can use your products without the Juicer. Even restore your index online for JDrops so we can just go there to see what they are for reference. Then maybe have a stripped down Juicer (maybe Juicer 4 is that creature) to fire up ONLY for things that must be rendered (Layered Music, Knockouts and Fonts). I'd even be interested in buying a wall chart with the index images and have begun to prepare one for my own use... or buying a simple index file. I really never even use the keywords for search, not sure who else does, but that will make the thing phat for memory. True professionals should be intimately familiar with their resources anyway and should be able to glance at a index and go right to a file. (I once was a Club DJ and could grab a vinyl dance tune within 15 seconds of a request... same thing with DJ stuff if I can at least see an index.) I know Juicer is near and dear to you, so forgive me if you felt I was being harsh in my frustration. I just think that many of us here are crushed with deadlines and we can't fight a program that inhibits us from fully utilizing a vast array of resources that ultimately feed our families. With all the dang products DJ is cranking out, Juicer may just be too enormous for most of us. Leaner, better alternatives must be available. A long-time Juicer suggested Bridge, I tend to use Portfolio, others likely have their own method to keep them out of the Juicer. I have a dear friend who would slit his wrists before using Juicer, the new owner of a video company I sold a few years ago refuses to use DJ products because of early issues with Juicer. A printer who has several graphics people on staff will not buy DJ products because of the Juicer (his people don't have the luxury of spending time to search for the perfect graphics via the Juicer). I am confident there are MANY others who have thrown their hands up in frustration and take a pass on wonderful resources. Don't get me wrong. In theory Juicer is way cool. ALL your stuff theoretically in one place to review. But in practice, Juicer sucks up a lot of memory and drive space. And MORE stuff is constantly coming out so it's going to get fatter and fatter. Maybe JuicerStacks... Maybe JuicerFonts... MiniJuicers just for a product line is in order to keep folks from having to load up the entire thing. Yes, maybe I am a whiner and people feel I am out of bounds here, but, I love Digital Juice. I love my products and the awesome resources in which I have heavily invested over the years since discovering the gold mine. I desperately need to be able to work fast and smart to address daily deadlines. My clients expect the best... with DJ in my arsenal, they get their money's worth. I want DJ to be hugely profitable (okay, not so much profit that the products are out of reach). Juicer -- as we now know it -- is inhibiting the proliferation of DJ, IMHO. Juicer IV may be the answer. I sincerely hope so. I still suggest some simple alternate index files so -- when all else fails -- we can open, quickly review, select and use (or BUY) a product. Nuff said. You know how I feel. I lost a day of production because I needed to identify a JuiceDrop file. I did find it, but now must find a new file to freshen up the design. Thanks again to all who have eMailed me and co-miserated with me. And thanks for the suggestions on how to fix this exasperating problem. I look forward to talking with Ben. But I am taking a hammer with me to work to make a few adjustments to my computer just in case. : ) _____________________________ dean (in reply to David Hebel) |
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harryt Posts: 123 Joined: 12/21/2009 Status: offline
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quote: Whatever works, Deano. A fast and accurate preview system, for non-proprietory files, is all that anyone wants. The Fonts ( that you rely on a lot ) will always be a Juicer-Child, so good luck on that one. Best regards from Harry (in reply to deano2222) |
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windhamjim Posts: 2149 Joined: 4/1/2006 From: Palm Bay, Florida Status: offline
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Dean, Did you try disconnecting your computer from the internet before starting the Juicer? Maybe your version is in fact trying to download something from the DJ site. I thank my lucky stars form not having the problem you are having. I would come real close to throwing the baby out with the bath water. _____________________________ Jim "It is fun doing the impossible" Quote from Walt Disney (in reply to deano2222) |
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David Hebel Posts: 3992 Joined: 4/24/2003 From: Currently in Bangalore, India Status: offline
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Dean, it is much easier for us to try to get to the bottom of your issue than for us to come up with alternatives to the Juicer. I'll see what we can do, although at this point I'm not sure Juicer will get a fair trial in your jurisdiction :-) Solutions such as Bridge and Portfolio won't work for a lot of our products and that's not something that is our fault it's just a by product of the fact that many of our products are unique to us such as: Fonts, StackTraxx, MusicBox, Ready2Go, Motion Designer's Toolkit, Countdowns, PhotoKnockouts, etc Using any of those products without the Juicer would be almost impossible, their existence would also be nearly impossible. As for it taking up "too much hard drive space and ram" that is the nature of all such apps these days. Hard drive space and ram are much cheaper than our products and these days should not really be an issue that comes up. The only thing I can think we might be able to do is give a special debug version of Juicer that would help us narrow what the possible problems are. Anil gets back from vacation on Thursday hopefully he can start a email or phone dialog with you at that point, perhaps with Ben's assistance on the issue. (in reply to windhamjim) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Jim, I do think Juicer is looking for thumbnails repeatedly. If memory serves me correctly, the Web icon bounces in the dock after a few seconds I force quit it and the Juicer begins to very slowly load the thumbnails. I have some very major projects on the table thisweek and cannot dance with tech support for very long, so am hopeful they can get in and get out with a solution. I am hopeful, David, that a quick toggle or click will be the trick. The last time Ben and I could not figure it out and I thought it was fixed with the latest update. When Juicer works, it's a good thing. I do feel some of my other observations (i.e. doing away with the SD/HD choice in ETKpro Singles) would be very nice. Or allowing folks to see just JDrop files in them would make things faster). I am hopeful for a solution, but am preparing for the worst. I cannot take a day out of my schedule to troubleshoot Juicer with too much frequency. And I realize that Juicer may be required for some products. What has me baffled is that I experience the problem when nothing else is opened. Let's see if the gurus can get me a fix. A large hammer will likely fix it. : ) _____________________________ dean (in reply to David Hebel) |
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windhamjim Posts: 2149 Joined: 4/1/2006 From: Palm Bay, Florida Status: offline
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Spend a few hundred bucks at Best Buy and come to the dark side(Windows). It isn't great though the Juicer works for me there.
_____________________________ Jim "It is fun doing the impossible" Quote from Walt Disney (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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OMG. I'd rather sell my Juice collection. And that isn't likely. LOL. I am hopeful Anil or Ben will have the answer.
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DamonHan Posts: 1096 Joined: 8/31/2006 From: Evansville, IN Status: offline
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Get you a new iMac and you'll be fine ;) Going to Windoze wouldn't help production any lol
_____________________________ Damon Hancock http://www.fatheadmedia.com http://www.onelifenetwork.in (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Ben and I talked this morning about 9:30 am. He took some info and will call back in about 30 minutes... it's now 1:15 and still waiting. I think he is re-writing the Juice coding. LOL Will keep you posted on the progress.
_____________________________ dean (in reply to DamonHan) |
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harryt Posts: 123 Joined: 12/21/2009 Status: offline
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quote: sorta like getting a free ticket for the Titanic (in reply to DamonHan) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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LOL. Wow... to be a part of history. What a deal. The latest is that there could be a problem with the router/modem, although it used to work. Apparently the Juicer does communicate with DJ, or tries to. And the failure to connect means it polls over and over. We'll see. Stay tuned for the next exciting chapter of "Juice, or No Juice."
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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In case anyone else is encountering the same issue I am experiencing, here's what I just sent to Ben in Tech Support. I will post progress and any resolution I find for the benefit of all who may have this issue: I had Cincinnati Bell test my modem and it was working within specs (2626 download and 620 upload). I then reloaded the latest Juicer and the reload updated 86 products (the same that it always updates). The progress bar worked and I cound see the products being updated (ie.e V 106, DJ Fonts, Pro 207, THK 127, etc.) After completing the updating, Juicer launched in 20 seconds and was blazing fast. NO PROBLEMS. I then quit Juicer and immediately relaunched to encounter the problems of an Update screen that never shows progress, then after a very long time, Juicer launches and when I selecta JuiceDrop volume, the hard drive beings to work and the index thumbnails load at a snails pace. _____________________________ dean (in reply to dasmith) |
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windhamjim Posts: 2149 Joined: 4/1/2006 From: Palm Bay, Florida Status: offline
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Any anti-virus crap running in the background?
_____________________________ Jim "It is fun doing the impossible" Quote from Walt Disney (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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EUREKA! Let it be known from this point forward that BEN IS A GEEK GOD. He had me tweak and rename, discard and tweak again. BANG! The Juicer loads so fast that it knocked me out of my chair. I think my neck is broken from whiplash. Now it works too fast! (Just kidding!) Jim, I was wondering if I had some kind of spyware bug that was shadowing my movements or a virus... or something. Not! There seems to be some issues that cause Juicer to constantly poll, re-poll and keep polling to get something via the net that just isn't there. Then I am guessing that my computer starts kicking the hard drive, which is why I keep hearing it laboring. I was worried that I was going to burn up my drive. Ben stayed on this until he figured it out. Thanks, Ben, for your tenacity. And for listening to me whine and cry. Apparently, there is another Juicer update coming out in a few weeks and this issue will be reviewed. Whenever there has been an issue, the Tech folks have always been able to address the matter. This, however, was really kicking my butt. If the Juicer works like this, then my previous observations about Juicer inhibiting us is without merit. Also, I do think a Juicer JUST for DJ Fonts might be in order to simplify things for those just wanting the Fabu-Fonts, er, I mean the DJ Fonts. OKay, now let's get Graphic Designer's Toolkit rolling. My Juicer works and I want to install more stuff to see if it can take it! Case Closed. That concludes another exciting episode of "Juice, or No Juice." -30- _____________________________ dean (in reply to windhamjim) |
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mediatvguy Posts: 4380 Joined: 4/20/2006 From: Florida Status: offline
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Glad for you Deano! How about juiceDROPS? Do they load fast? Always? < Message edited by mediatvguy -- 3/1/2011 3:40:33 PM > (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Yes, Jose, everything loads at blinding speed. As fast as I can click, there it is. I haven't a clue what the reason was, but Ben sure knew how to fix it. Now looking through the resources is actually fun. I had so dreaded trying to find resources for the past several months, even a year. Each time I had to fight the Juicer. Not any more. I am actually looking forward to a few projects now.
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windhamjim Posts: 2149 Joined: 4/1/2006 From: Palm Bay, Florida Status: offline
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What was the resolution? Can you walk us through the steps? I am happy to hear your Juicer is finally juicing. _____________________________ Jim "It is fun doing the impossible" Quote from Walt Disney (in reply to deano2222) |
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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Jim, I wish I could walk you through it, but I renamed, trashed, changed permissions, and am really not sure what it was the did the trick. I am confident that, if anybody has an issue, a call to Tech Support will surely resolve it. I can hardly wait to get to the office in the morning to check out what all I have in my resource library.. I don't think Juicer worked at the office for a year at least. Happy Happy Joy Joy _____________________________ dean (in reply to windhamjim) |
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mediatvguy Posts: 4380 Joined: 4/20/2006 From: Florida Status: offline
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It might be beneficial for us technically-incline users to have a check list on things like what you just mentioned Dean... Permissions, folders, files, preferences, etc. Perhaps tech support can provide us with that :)
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deano2222 Posts: 1667 Joined: 1/11/2007 From: Cincinnati OH Status: offline
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I think they are not going to be too keen on providing self-help measures here in the forums. Kinda like a doctor not wanting to post how to stitch up a cut or remove a wart. While it may be easy for some medically-oriented peoples, those who just think they are medically-oriented might try something on somebody and wreak havoc. I do remember changing permissions in (I think) the Juicer from my sign-in name to System. (But don't try this at home, as I haven't a clue.) But I also tweaked a few other items. I was clicking, renaming, dragging to trash so many things I was fearful I would cause the failure of the power grid for the entire eastern seaboard. The advice was dead-on. Problem resolved. I just looked at the entire JuiceDrop line in Juicer, all in about 7 minutes. It was so wonderful, I feel like enjoying a cigarette in the after-glow (and I don't even smoke).
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SpaceRay Posts: 641 Joined: 11/4/2008 From: Malaga - Spain Status: offline
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Now that Dean have posted this great news here, I think that it should be in His own thread started also by Dean. quote: Great news that they are focusing on finalizing Juicer 4, which for me before had another name Juicer FOURever in the making  as is since 2009 that was the first news about this and in 2011 still has not been released. < Message edited by SpaceRay -- 7/16/2011 11:29:39 AM > (in reply to deano2222) |
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Dink_Wink Posts: 248 Joined: 6/25/2010 Status: offline
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quote:How about Juicer Four-Gotton? (in reply to SpaceRay) |
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SpaceRay Posts: 641 Joined: 11/4/2008 From: Malaga - Spain Status: offline
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quote: YES !!! Very Good. Although did you mean FOUR-Gotten ??? Yes, I have really FOUR-Gotten the last time that was told a news about Juicer 4. What is good is that is not FOURbidden to speak about this FOURTHcoming juicer Juicer FOUR us  It is very good to know that we will be able to use Juicer FOUR using our DJ products collection as it will be compatible with any previous DJ product released I suposse. I think we can FOUR-Give to the DJ team for the time is taking and it surely will be a great software release. < Message edited by SpaceRay -- 7/16/2011 11:32:57 AM > (in reply to Dink_Wink) |
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SpaceRay Posts: 641 Joined: 11/4/2008 From: Malaga - Spain Status: offline
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I have just seen in a news "may the FOURTH be with you" simulating the phrase from Star Wars "May the force be with you" and have thought that this could also be used with the FOURTHcoming Juicer. May the Juicer Fourth be with you !! Will the new Juicer be released the FOURTH of August or FOURTH of September, or FOURTH of October ??? It would be a good date to release Juicer 4 on the 4 Sorry for the bad jokes (in reply to SpaceRay) |
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ednachman Posts: 58 Joined: 11/20/2007 Status: offline
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quote:What "bells and whistles" will be missing? (in reply to SpaceRay) |
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David Hebel Posts: 3992 Joined: 4/24/2003 From: Currently in Bangalore, India Status: offline
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* batch rendering won't be in the first release, though it will likely be added later. * community fonts won't be there * dj fonts embedded won't be there * there won't be browser customization on a per product line bases... for instance PhotoKnockouts and Fonts have a lot of customized options in the way the browser works that are specific to those products. In Juicer 4 content is handled in a more generic fashion which ends up I feel being a faster, overall improved user experience. * less keyboard shortcuts and wizards that no one uses. (in reply to ednachman) |
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SpaceRay Posts: 641 Joined: 11/4/2008 From: Malaga - Spain Status: offline
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Please, Please David could you confirm or tell if any of the things that you said one year ago, will be still be included and available in the future Juicer 4.0 or in this year you have changed the development and now is different ? quote: This is the thing that I remember that was the MOST INTERESTING AND USEFUL thing about the new Juicer 4.0, to be able to have a SEPARATE application for using the wonderful ans awesome DJfonts WITHOUT JUICER. Please, What news there is about this ? quote: Does this mean that Juicer 4.0 will have the download manager for the download manager needed to open the DJ store soon ? I remember here the whole full news what David said in this thread here ---> http://www.digitaljuice.com/community_forums/tm.asp?m=143371 quote: (in reply to David Hebel) |
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SpaceRay Posts: 641 Joined: 11/4/2008 From: Malaga - Spain Status: offline
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David Hebel have finally confirmed in other threads that the separate DJfonts app is already in the finishing parts. quote: YES !!!! This is REALLY very good, useful and very interesting and will for sure help much to get the most out of your fabulous and fantastic DJFonts, and will be able to use in much more ways. Great to know too that this framework will be used for other future applications AND NEW TYPES OF CONTENTS that involve not only fonts !!! quote: I mean if you will need to have Juicer 4.0 to be able to use it. quote: It would be really great and very useful too that new app could be upgraded and make it compatible and integrated with photoshop and be able to use the DJfonts from Photoshop in a more easier way. quote: It would be really nice if the app could let you make an index of the DJfonts you have installed and also the ones you have downloaded form DJ comunnity and those customized by yourself. (in reply to SpaceRay) |
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DKG Posts: 202 Joined: 10/10/2006 Status: offline
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Looking forward to Juicer 4!!
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