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MikeM Posts: 2347 Joined: 2/25/2005 From: Germany Status: offline
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I'm sure the Adobe suite is pretty convenient. But you can establish an effective workflow with different applications, too. That's especially true for audio production for video.
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andyowen Posts: 371 Joined: 4/24/2006 From: Okemos, Michigan Status: offline
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It's more than convenient my friend, there are absolutely no time lapses. It used to be that I would export an After Effects movie into .avi format before I would apply it to Premiere, but now all I have to do is save it and I can import the composition. Same as the audio work. If something is wrong with my video's audio, I merely right-click the clip and tell it to "edit in audition", it launches the app with my audio in the edit line, I do my work, and click save. When I bring Premiere back up, it's already recognized the change. I know it's still not as powerful as other apps, I'm merely saying that the go-between has been made effortless. I'm not disagreeing, just saying that I can't see it moving any faster than it does with Production Suite 2. I know...I'm a fanboy. Lame indeed, but for a good cause!
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MikeM Posts: 2347 Joined: 2/25/2005 From: Germany Status: offline
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Let's stick to the audio side here. For a usual workflow where all audio editing/mixing is done in a DAW you need a transfer way from NLE to DAW (that can be OMF or AAF) and later get the mix back into the NLE. If you do the audio stuff inside your NLE it sure is convenient to use Audition for processing audio clips that way. But as you mentioned, Audition cannot compare with a full-fledged DAW. But if you use that ping-pong process you mentioned (going to Audition to edit a clip and then back) you primarily need a sound editing app. Besides I would hardly trade in my current DAW for Audition - may it be as convenient as it wants to. _____________________________ Michael Lt. Cmdr. Data: If the warp drive fails to activate, the results could be... unfortunate. Lieutenant Worf: Very unfortunate. We will be dead. i7 / Win7 64 Bit SP1; Avid MC 6.5; Adobe CS6 PP; Nuendo 2-6; Wavelab 7; C4D R12 (in reply to andyowen) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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I know something more convenient than the workflow between Premiere and Audtion: Vegas.
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andyowen Posts: 371 Joined: 4/24/2006 From: Okemos, Michigan Status: offline
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And here's where my amateur status kicks in: I've never used Vegas. I've used Final Cut Pro, Avid (well, honestly it was like Avid 1.1 or at least quite old), Media100, and of course the Adobe Production Suite. Vegas is the one big boy I haven't played with much. Tell me why you say this...since you're not busy with Tech Know at the current moment. ;) (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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jmeredith Posts: 836 Joined: 9/4/2003 From: Oregon/Hawaii Status: offline
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Hey Andy IIRC... Vegas used to be 2 separate apps, one audio and one video - in any event, I know a lot of people that use Vegas exclusively for its' audio capabilities. Sonic Foundry, although eventually purchased by Sony, was into audio/music early on e.g., SoundForge, Acid so it's not surprising that many of those features/capabilities made it into Vegas. Probably won't ever happen but if they were to add MIDI, DXi, VSTi, and Rewire to Vegas - it would be a pretty killer app. And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming while we wait for Eric to provide a more technical (and useful) explanation 
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andyowen Posts: 371 Joined: 4/24/2006 From: Okemos, Michigan Status: offline
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While I'd still like to hear Eric's side of things, that was extremely useful! I didn't know any of that. I'll blame ignorance...or youth...or being just plain dumb...really there's a bevy of reasons to choose from! ;) I used to use Sonic Foundry occassionally...I'd honestly forgotten about that. Thanks for the info Julie!
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Break? No one told me I was on break! Julie's explanation is a deep as I dare to go. My only point was that it is just a do it all app that is easier and more convenient (note: I didn't say "better") than the Audition/Premiere workflow. Vegas started as an audio app and then added full-blown video editing with version 4. And Vegas does indeed have MIDI, MTC, Sync, VSTi, DXi, control surface support and ReWire. (In short: you can hook your compliant DAW up to Vegas and edit in it and have the results ported live right into your video project live as you work.) So yes, it is a killer app. And, just to repeat myself and be utterly clear: Vegas is my app of choice. I am definitely not recommending or even suggesting you switch! It sounds like you are being immensely productive using the Adobe suite and, at the end of the day, all of these apps really do the same thing. Eric (Full-disclosure: I used to work for Sonic Foundry a half dozen years ago.) < Message edited by D. Eric Franks -- 11/7/2006 5:10:16 PM > (in reply to andyowen) |
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jmeredith Posts: 836 Joined: 9/4/2003 From: Oregon/Hawaii Status: offline
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Memo to self: Must learn to 'splain it better Lucy - sorry for misleading anyone earlier. I was just hoping to have all those features directly in Vegas without having to hook my DAW (Sonar/Project 5) up to Vegas (Does that make sense?) For example, I can insert a Soft Synth or a MIDI track right in Acid Pro 6. Please don't tell me that has been in Vegas 5 the whole time  If they've added this to 7 then I should have upgraded afterall. In any event, I still love my Vegas and it is in no way a complaint  (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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Richard M Posts: 1070 Joined: 5/6/2006 From: New Jersey Status: offline
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Mike, I think its Cuebase VST we are currently using. We just finished a project today where we have a 50-60 cycle hum in our video. We were going to export it into one of our audio programs to run filters to cut the hum. But we tried Prem Pro 2 audio effects and I gotta tell you we were very pleasantly surprised by the results. It did a good enough job that we could use the video proudly...and didn't have to do all the work in another program. Another point for Adobe! < Message edited by Richard M -- 11/7/2006 6:48:07 PM > (in reply to jmeredith) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Oh, no Julie, you got it right: you can't do any MIDI editing in Vegas - you can just hook it up to ACID/Sonar/Whatev with ReWire, as you are doing.
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andyowen Posts: 371 Joined: 4/24/2006 From: Okemos, Michigan Status: offline
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Eric, While I don't plan on switching out of Adobe's suite anytime soon, it's good to know what else is out there. I've always seen myself as the "jack of all trades, master of none" kind of guy, so maybe someday if I get the chance to play in Vegas, I'll at least be prepared for what I'm working with. Thanks for the great info everybody! (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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Matt Posts: 5743 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Oak Ridge, NC Status: offline
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Looks like I might be getting a copy o vegas soon to ty out. I'm excited to see it, I 've heard a lot of good things about it. I'llpost my thoughts when I get it.
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MikeM Posts: 2347 Joined: 2/25/2005 From: Germany Status: offline
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quote: Thanks Richard. Cubase VST is quite a bit old now though. Cubase 4 is the most recent version available in 2 editions (complete one and "Studio" cheaper with some of the advanced features cut). Regarding the noise filtering, that's something I also do quite easily in Nuendo or WaveLab. _____________________________ Michael Lt. Cmdr. Data: If the warp drive fails to activate, the results could be... unfortunate. Lieutenant Worf: Very unfortunate. We will be dead. i7 / Win7 64 Bit SP1; Avid MC 6.5; Adobe CS6 PP; Nuendo 2-6; Wavelab 7; C4D R12 (in reply to Richard M) |
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Crossingsound Posts: 137 Joined: 8/26/2006 Status: offline
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digi 002 Pro Tools LE 7.0 on a Mac
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MikeM Posts: 2347 Joined: 2/25/2005 From: Germany Status: offline
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As of now Adobe Audition got the most votes, followed by Sony SoundForge/Vegas. The standard DAW applications like Cubase/Nuendo, Logic and ProTools seem to be a minority here.
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JeffreyPFisher Posts: 161 Joined: 1/11/2007 Status: offline
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I use the whole Sony family -- Sound Forge 8, Acid Pro 6, and Vegas 7 along with Cinescore and the Sony Noise Reduction plug-in. I also use Sonicfire Pro 4. Of course, I heavily rely on DJ StackTraxx and the SFX library, which is very, very helpful. I have dozens of software synths and samplers (Reason, Ultimate Sound Bank, Kontakt, etc.) for music and sound design and quite a few audio plug-ins. My favorite is the Izotope Ozone 3. Soundcard right now is a Focusrite Saffire going to Event 20/20 speakers, M-Audio Lx-4 (for surround), and for real-world checking, Avantone MixCubes. Mics too numerous to mention; guitars a-plenty. JPF _____________________________ Sony Vegas Certified Trainer http://www.jeffreypfisher.com (in reply to IMG) |
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Ugosound Posts: 10 Joined: 4/12/2007 From: Redondo Beach, California Status: offline
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Primarely, Pro Tools LE / HD but also, depending on the task, Cubase SX 3... Mac G5 Dual Powewr PC OS X 10.4 _____________________________ Let's make some sounds, dog... (in reply to MikeM) |
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hypnomedia Posts: 2 Joined: 9/18/2010 Status: offline
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Hi, I'm new to the forum. Currently I'm using a really oddball combo. Adobe Soundbooth CS5, assisted by Goldwave Multiquence 2.55. I just purchased Soundbooth, so I find Multiquence which I licensed long ago to have a more familiar multitrack interface. MQ also does both audio and video...both initial and post production types. Just bought my first pro mic, a MXL 990 USB, and beginning to learn both DarkWave Studio and LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio). Workspace: Intel Core i3 2.94 Ghz 3GB RAM 1.5 TB HDD space Windows 7 Home Edition NVIDIA Geforce 210 CUDA Enabled Realtek HD 7.1 Surround mobo sound < Message edited by hypnomedia -- 9/18/2010 4:05:48 PM > (in reply to IMG) |
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