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Cartoons.... - 12/6/2007 10:42:04 AM   
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Thanks Digital Juice for providing discounts on pluggins. I appreciated ordering a couple of these.

Would you entertain the idea of getting a discount for a pluggin called "Toonit" by Digital Anarchy?
Perhaps you know of another pluggin for after effects that will do this?

Happy Holidays!

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/6/2007 4:28:58 PM   
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That would be a great plug-in to add.  I've wanted to do that kind of effect for awhile but don't have the time to go through the process (Like Ahron R.'s tutorial on Creative Cow) since I work by myself.


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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/6/2007 4:48:09 PM   
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GenArts Sapphire Box 2 of 4

The Foundry Tinderbox 4 of 4

Both are more expensive than ToonIt but they also have a lot more filters and features

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/6/2007 6:43:10 PM   
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Thanks for the links to GenArts Sapphire.
I saw their demo reel. Looking at it closer, there was an example of cartoon look. Although this can be done tediously in ae, these pluggins really streamline the process. If you or anyone run across more examples of these products... please share.

Dennis

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 12:46:46 AM   
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well,
any ideas on how they created the comic book look of ace in the new twists of time episode.


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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 2:00:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittigadu

well,
any ideas on how they created the comic book look of ace in the new twists of time episode.

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Photoshop or Painter and a drawing tablet... though you could also use Illustrator, Paint Shop Pro or other image app and/or use one of many 3rd party plug-ins to streamline the process... Filter Forge, Twisting Pixels among others

Photoshop Matte Painting
Matte Painting Part 2: The Tools

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Techniques of DVD

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 6:44:07 AM   
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Here's a work-around to hold you over while your waiting for that discount...

If you already have Photoshop CS3-Extended, you can apply any PS filters/effects to video footage (Poster edges, etc.). Works nice for the "Toon" effect above.

Record the steps in a PS "Action" to apply quickly in one simple step to other video clips.

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 8:11:06 AM   
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I have been testing the effect in a.e. using posterizer and several other effects. I am using CS3 master suite. Getting some "ok" results. Lighting the scene for this effect I suspect is critical. I am really a novice at a.e. so it's the old addage... practice, practice, practice. I work in healthcare environment and have wanted to produce some content for our younger patients. Also looking at applying some distortion effects, such as making heads larger, etc. Video being one avenue for charactor generation. I know there are a number of other means for this such as a.e. puppet tool. Have not tried that yet.

Again, thank for sharing tips!

I'll post some successful clips as I attempt to master this. Please keep me in mind as you run across creative solutions in this regards.

Dennis

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 9:18:12 AM   
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Here are two different tests I did using PS CS3-extended.


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Cranking up noise reduction and playing with sharpening helps also.
Adding a half-tone pattern (filter gallery) onto a separate layer – set to overlay blending mode will add the impression of a newspaper comic.

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 9:34:32 AM   
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quote:

If you already have Photoshop CS3-Extended,


Geez Jules, way to forget the obvious when responding (sorry but my brain had already shut down last night) Nice catch Tim and since I'm not quite awake... does that mean your dream job has become reality? That would be awesome.

P.S. You could also take a longer work-around with the regular version of Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, etc if you want.

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 10:12:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jmeredith
does that mean your dream job has become reality? That would be awesome.


Not the matte-painting. But have many other joys over the years to take it's place.
The closest I get to matte painting now is in printed form (visuals for children) and the occasional background matte-painting for a puppet video against a green screen. Perhaps a result of this interest is that when I'm out taking photos, I always look for tileable textures/patterns to photograph for later use in PS (wood, dirt, stone, walls, cloth, etc.).

Your matte painting tutorial link of the old house was one of my first matte painting tutorial discoveries on the Internet (a good example). I got side-tracked from my work with your fxguide.com link. I had to laugh when I read of one senior matte painter who stopped using Corel (formerly w/Fractal) "Painter" after version 4. I thought I was the only one who did that! I only use PS for that stuff now.

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 10:27:35 AM   
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Here are two different tests I did using PS CS3-extended.


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Cranking up noise reduction and playing with sharpening helps also.
Adding a half-tone pattern (filter gallery) onto a separate layer – set to overlay blending mode will add the impression of a newspaper comic.


Tim, that was cool cartoon effects, since I'm new to photoshop I will appreciate if you can post a step by step on how to do that effects. Thanks. God bless on your ministry.


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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 10:36:56 AM   
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I tried your tips and wow! I would upload this, however I don't have talent release forms signed. Getting to where we need a release form to look in the mirror in the morning?

Anyway... thanks so much!

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 2:01:48 PM   
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Dennis...  The AE Puppet tool is really cool for helping bring photo montages to life.  If you need to see how easy it is to use, go to this free tutorial on Lynda.com:

http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?ID=411

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/7/2007 10:32:23 PM   
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Lynda.com..... been a member since earlier this year. I did see the tutorial for puppetering in a.e. Thanks for sending the link. It's a sight I rave about. Lee, you mention photo montage. I wish I could post work I do, however it is for my corporation which is not something I can put out. However, I work a lot with our nursing education RN's on projects, one of which is a bi-annual photo/video montage of RN residence put to music. I use latest Adobe suite for this, for the graduations. However medical education projects are begging to take off.

The forums here are very helpful... In a perfect world we would all be working projectst together. How great that would be. Hmm? We'll maybe another thread would be... a documentary film project taping the creativivity of the members of the forums here.

DJ just recieved some Emmy's??? Congrats to those folks!!! 

Thanks again for the link.

Dennis

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/8/2007 9:36:09 AM   
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there seems to be a number of ways to achieve looks like those...
all yesterday i have been googleing and reading for techniques and tips and finally compiled a list. 
1. This guy seemed to have got the look what i was having in mind.
check out the links to the original image and processed image in his page. i loved it. seemes to be using a software called 'Lucis'
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00N984

2.These guys here have a similar discussion like ours.
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=91184

3.This piece of software can be the one some of us are looking for http://www.alienskin.com/snapart/snapart_examples.html

4.a flash video tutorial of how to acheive the comic book look using photoshop. i like the way it was presented. infact the final output is very interesting too.
http://www.photoshopmama.net/chores/tip_2_01/psm_comicart_1/psm_comicart_1.html

5.Finally, some thing like a Digital Juice for the comic book creators
http://www.myplanetwide.com/

untill DJ guys actually explain how they did it , i shall keep looking for more options.

kriss.

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/8/2007 11:35:50 AM   
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Ok.. this gets better and better. Lights go on but some times no body home! That would be for me. The posts are great inspiration! The post by kitti got me thinking.... finally, what about using filters for video from photoshop import. I may be hearing a resounding "DUH" !!. That's ok. Checking out a photoshop series from Lynda.com (DJ, ok with this?) Titled "Photoshop CS3 Extended for 3D + Video"  If what I think CS3 extended can do is expand the creative possibilities with PS pluggins, the Lucis product looked very interesting indeed. Although I can not get the GenArts Sapphire pluggin out of my head. Very cool that one is. I have to get back to the above tutorial, however I wanted to post a "Thank you" for the last post!

Perhaps, lights on, somebody home.... sleeping!

Thanks

Dennis

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/8/2007 2:14:42 PM   
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Hey Dennis, here's another example you can play around with - although the intended purpose was different than what you are trying to achieve, it does provide another way to go and a basis for further tweaking

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RE: Cartoons.... - 12/8/2007 4:02:45 PM  1 votes
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  • (optional) Depending on the image, I may first begin with a noise reduction filter, cranking everything to 100% and "sharpen details" down to 1%. For noise reduction in PS (RAW editor and PS filter menu), you need to preview at 100% size to see the effects.
  • (optional) B/W filter (CS3) or... hue/saturation adjustment layer – – saturation "(minus)-100" and lightness turned up slightly (layer blending mode: overlay) – – This will help to add some contrast similar to the image at the start of this thread.
  • filter > blur > smart blur – – Radius is set lower, threshold near the middle+, quality to "high", mode - "normal". tweak until you have flat color shapes but enough detail in key places (facial features, etc.).
  • filter > poster edges – – I set edge thickness to "7-10", posterization to "6" and turn edge intensity down to "0". This will give flatter color shapes and helps get rid of some of the annoying black specks.
  • (optional printed halftone look like in the newspaper) filter > sketch > halftone pattern – – This is done on a duplicate layer which will result in a B/W halftone of the image. Size="1-2" (w/o losing dots in the highlights); contrast=mid to high range. "Dot" pattern. *Make sure your foreground color is black before creating halftone filter! set layer blending mode to "soft light" (or try others to your taste). Turn layer opacity down to reduce harhness (around 30%-50%?).


    If I'm applying the effect to a photo I will layer up quite a few effects to get it right but since we are talking about applying to video in CS3 I better keep it to 2-4 filters/adjustment layers or it may take forever to process! I'm not at my office computer so I can't remember off hand some of those additional steps I take for photos.
    Here is a PS action I came across on the Adobe Exchange website. You could check out the steps of the action to see how it was done. It does a pretty good job. Comix PS action

    As someone already mentioned, lighting has a big effect on the results. I would think some flat frontal lighting will help to create the flat drop color and simple shapes in the final comic effect.

    Hope that is of some help.

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    Jmeridith, That's a nice effect.

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