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video777 Posts: 492 Joined: 10/2/2006 Status: offline
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quote: No, not, really, thanks. _____________________________ "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." — Mark Twain (in reply to mptribe) |
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Zelkien69 Posts: 471 Joined: 12/7/2006 From: Louisville, Ky Status: offline
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 check on the multisave. Plus Plus Star Star for still having original media on same timeline and only one copy of Vegas open..
_____________________________ It's not that I don't know how to do it. It's when I click this button it doesn't work. Wait, did that just flash. Oh God...it's smoking. (in reply to mptribe) |
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Logos Posts: 120 Joined: 5/27/2007 Status: offline
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Ok... now that this has turned into a mutlicam editing post and I'm here today actually doing it on my day off ... WHAT A BREEZE!!!  mptribe ... no biggie switching back and forth between between multicam edit on/off. cntrl-shft-d and you're back. Ain't no thang. I also love the cntrl-alt between clips if you forgot to switch cams in an edit or want to switch sooner/later. Piece of cake. Before taking on the task I'd just advise watching the VAAST tutorial (a few short minutes) and what do you know ... you can even easily incorporate cross fades as well. I'm lovin it. BTW the 3 clips I'm editing are 2 HDV and one AVCHD and so far no hiccups/crashes. I was skeptical entering this job with one of the cams being AVCHD and anticipated problems. I'm not done yet either but I'll report back but so far so good. (in reply to mptribe) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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Forgive my lack of HD knowledge, but what's the difference between HD, HDV and AVCHD? Adam _____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to Logos) |
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Logos Posts: 120 Joined: 5/27/2007 Status: offline
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Formats... HDV is video shot on most all mini-dv hi def cams. It's 1440 x 1080i and when transported to your computer shows up as an MPEG-2 format with an m2t file extension. I love it because its shot at 25Mbps and the quality is exceptional. AVCHD on the other hand is MPEG 4 format and the H.264 codec. This is an extremely efficient codec as it allows high quality video to be packed tighter resulting in smaller file sizes. One primary reason why Sony and many other brands have turned to this format is because you can fit a reasonable amount of footage on portable media. All the consumer level hi def camcorders coming out these days that utilize portable digital media are all AVCHD including many that are not portable but are hard drive based. The one factor I don't like about AVCHD over HDV (tape based) is that the video is recorded at 15Mbps instead of 25Mbps and doesn't seem to do as well in low light. This also records at the 1440 x 1080i rez although the latest crop of these cams are now shooting 1920 x 1080. I have a Sony SR-8 that incorporates a 100 gig HD and can record 13 hours of the highest quality hi def video and it's primary benefit is convenience. No tapes to worry about. I'm mostly in good lighting so its more of a fun cam for me and the OIS is great. Straight up HD format ... I believe we're talking the full 1920 x 1080i/p enchilada. It's all considered HD (hi definition) but the specific HD format ... not sure as I work primarily with the other 2. (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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Thanks for the cool info. I love this forum! Adam _____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to Logos) |
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Shaun C. Roemich Posts: 1377 Joined: 11/1/2007 Status: offline
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quote: Not necessarily. Even HDCam is 1440 x 1080 stretched out to 1920 x 1080 in at least most of it's configurations. Essentially HD "proper" is less compressed, with a greater colour space (4:2:2 or 4:4:4) and can include 1080i, 1080p, 720p as well as 480p. HDV comes in 1080i and 720p variants as well although I do believe there is no 1080p support under HDV. HD would include DVCProHD100, XDCam HD, HDCam and Panasonic's offerings in the P2 line, to name a few. (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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Logos Posts: 120 Joined: 5/27/2007 Status: offline
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You see Sony's new XDcam Shaun that records MPEG2 (virtually every HD format) onto digital media and 3 1/2" CMOS sensors? My mouth is watering but darn they should have made that cam with a hard drive.
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Did you guys see the new 4-CCD Sony DXC-1800?! 4-CCDs, switchable between CMYK and an RGBA mode. Amazing. I posted a preliminary look at the camera on vimeo: http://www.vimeo.com/847613 On a totally different topic, (like the film vs. video debate) HD = more than 700 horizontal lines of resolution. I don't think there is any reason to complicate things by talking about "proper" or "professional" HD. SD could be Beta or VHS, DV25, DV50, MPEG-2, MPEG-4. Of course, the pros kept the amatuers out with the myth of "broadcast quality" back when there was only one resolution. (in reply to Logos) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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Very nice Eric! I've never heard of that site before. Cool. Did you say that was a proto-type camera? Adam _____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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mptribe Posts: 4459 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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Looks cool DEF. Just a prototype huh, any word on when they plan to release it? It looks like a old style look on that prototype, hopefully they will pretty it up some.
_____________________________ Marc (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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rs170a Posts: 55 Joined: 1/9/2008 Status: offline
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Doesn't anyone remember what date it is today? That's right, it's April 1st - aka April Fools :-) The DXC 1800 looks old style because it is!! It goes back to around 1980 when it first came out and is a single tube (anyone besides me remember those??) Trinicon colour camera. Mike Kujbida (in reply to mptribe) |
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SpoilerWarning Posts: 420 Joined: 3/16/2007 From: South Africa Status: offline
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Awesome stuff Eric! That must be the industry's best kept sekret. I have tons of ideas for RGBA, can't wait to get my hands on it.
_____________________________ Vista Ultimate x64 Intel Core2Duo E6600, 2GB RAM Nvidia BFG 8800 GTS (163.75 forceware drivers) QT 7.4.5, Juicer 3.25 build 123 108905309889 juice objects and counting... (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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mptribe Posts: 4459 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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DEF, you got me on that one. LOL.
_____________________________ Marc (in reply to SpoilerWarning) |
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kokopellimusic Posts: 762 Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Nashville, TN Status: offline
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So is it an April fools?
_____________________________ Adam PC Vegas 9, DVD Architect 5.0 Sound Forge9, Acid Pro 6, Cubase SX, To much DJ to list! (in reply to mptribe) |
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rs170a Posts: 55 Joined: 1/9/2008 Status: offline
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So is it an April fools? Google DXC-1800 and see for yourself. I'm not sure but I may have used one - back in the early (19)80's. Keep forgetting to add "Good one Eric!!" Mike Kujbida < Message edited by rs170a -- 4/1/2008 1:14:45 PM > (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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SpoilerWarning Posts: 420 Joined: 3/16/2007 From: South Africa Status: offline
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You have GOT to be kidding me?!? Eric, my favourite one is 'DTV: The end of (analogue) Television'. Nice haircut, constantly looking off cam, and jewels like "government and industry conspiracy to screw people with old analogue tv's". GOLD!! "I have a healthy scepticism for government mandated... anything!" ha ha!!! Loved it. Are you sunburnt? _____________________________ Vista Ultimate x64 Intel Core2Duo E6600, 2GB RAM Nvidia BFG 8800 GTS (163.75 forceware drivers) QT 7.4.5, Juicer 3.25 build 123 108905309889 juice objects and counting... (in reply to kokopellimusic) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Thanks - you got serious points for recognizing the camera, Mike. And Spoiler... sorry, I (1) can't do much with the hair, (2) the looking off camera is just bad acting and (3) it may be sun, but it's mostly bad color correction (and the image is a little soft, too) - I think the two newer segments show some improvement, at least in technical quality! I'm workin' on it! *** Keep in mind, this is just me making a fool outta myself and is not associated with DJ - wouldn't want ya'll thinking Juice's standards were slipping!*** (in reply to SpoilerWarning) |
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rs170a Posts: 55 Joined: 1/9/2008 Status: offline
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Thanks - you got serious points for recognizing the camera, Mike. What can I say except hatt I'm an old fart!!! I recognized the model # as soon as the into screen came up :-) Mike Kujbida (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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SpoilerWarning Posts: 420 Joined: 3/16/2007 From: South Africa Status: offline
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you mean.... it's NOT a joke?!? You're just naturally funny then! So is this your own setup at home or something, or are you using the juice studios? _____________________________ Vista Ultimate x64 Intel Core2Duo E6600, 2GB RAM Nvidia BFG 8800 GTS (163.75 forceware drivers) QT 7.4.5, Juicer 3.25 build 123 108905309889 juice objects and counting... (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Hehe, I hope I'm funny in print, at least. The camera really isn't my friend. And yea, it's my tiny one-car garage! Check out the Infinite White segment to see the details. What I'm trying to do is get pro results on a hobbyist budget and document the process. While this doesn't use any DJ resources, I do have one serious advantage and that is I've been working with pros for a decade now, so I know what's needed AND I know what good results are supposed to look like! Now if I could just get the audio sorted... (in reply to SpoilerWarning) |
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SpoilerWarning Posts: 420 Joined: 3/16/2007 From: South Africa Status: offline
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Well in that case I'm seriously impressed. I thought you used the juice studios to do some spoof april fools type spots. If you can do that in your own garage then I'm seriously impressed, it looks awesome! Are you filming and editing it yourself also, or do you have some help with that? You're giving the average Joe out there a lot of hope!!
_____________________________ Vista Ultimate x64 Intel Core2Duo E6600, 2GB RAM Nvidia BFG 8800 GTS (163.75 forceware drivers) QT 7.4.5, Juicer 3.25 build 123 108905309889 juice objects and counting... (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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Cheesesteak Posts: 201 Joined: 9/17/2007 From: Media, PA Status: offline
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Hey Mike K. It is a great honor to have you on this board!! Keep coming back please. _____________________________ Peace, Bob (in reply to SpoilerWarning) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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That is the idea, my friend: I genuinely believe that we are living in revolutionary times in terms of mass media, movies and video. For the first time in history, we have the gear and, more importantly, the means of distribution. High-quality, free, mass distribution has never been possible before. It's not like the masses are going rise up and overthrow the pros - YouTube proves that accessibility doesn't equal quality. But for those with the skills, the time and the desire, it is possible. And I figured if I was gonna talk the talk, I had better walk the walk. Here's a great quote from the Exec. VP of Intel, Sean Maloney that I read yesterday in The Times, "The Internet is going to hit broadcast media like a ton of bricks in the next 24 months." < Message edited by D. Eric Franks -- 4/2/2008 12:29:55 AM > (in reply to SpoilerWarning) |
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Logos Posts: 120 Joined: 5/27/2007 Status: offline
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LMAO ... that was good Eric. I saw that cam and thought to myself dayum that thing looks old. And the color wheel... :P What's even funnier ... your lil cartoon avatar kinda looks like you too! =) (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Well, the avatar looks like me because I had the privilege of sitting for a caricature with the excellent illustrator Steve Ferchaud ... for about six minutes. Anyhow, long time ago, when I was younger, but yea, it still kinda looks like me!
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wizard Posts: 6029 Joined: 2/15/2006 From: New Hampshire, USA Status: offline
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Too much, Eric. Great fun. I really died on the 4th CCD for the "Alpha" channel. Well done - points to you for a funny, non-hurtful April Fool's Day "gotcha". Very creative. _____________________________ Pops (in reply to D. Eric Franks) |
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Shaun C. Roemich Posts: 1377 Joined: 11/1/2007 Status: offline
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quote: And here I thought the avatar was some demented "Ward Cleaver" era clip art or something... I know what you look like DEF and I never realized that was ACTUALLY you... That's cool! (in reply to wizard) |
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Shaun C. Roemich Posts: 1377 Joined: 11/1/2007 Status: offline
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quote: Introducing the world's first dye sublimation camera! Wet look colour because we melt crayons to get that colour subtractive look. Just add our proprietary "stay within the lines" option and you've got the same alpha control that elementary schoolchildren have with their colouring books! You are a sick man, DEF! Well done. (in reply to Shaun C. Roemich) |
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mptribe Posts: 4459 Joined: 7/10/2007 From: Sanford, FL Status: offline
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quote: LOL. I wouldn't have fallen for that one. _____________________________ Marc (in reply to Shaun C. Roemich) |
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SpoilerWarning Posts: 420 Joined: 3/16/2007 From: South Africa Status: offline
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Shaun, if you own Juicedrop 22 boundlessEDGE, then you own a little bit of DEF. Look at juicedrop 2293, there's a hidden cookie for you. For some reason they bundled DEF with aliens.
_____________________________ Vista Ultimate x64 Intel Core2Duo E6600, 2GB RAM Nvidia BFG 8800 GTS (163.75 forceware drivers) QT 7.4.5, Juicer 3.25 build 123 108905309889 juice objects and counting... (in reply to Shaun C. Roemich) |
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D. Eric Franks Posts: 2544 Joined: 11/10/2004 From: Florida Status: offline
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Ooops, sorry, I misconstrued "avatar" - the Avatar on my vimeo.com page is a caricature of me, the avatar here is "Bob" and is not me. Sorry!
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Shaun C. Roemich Posts: 1377 Joined: 11/1/2007 Status: offline
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Thanks, my bad! THOUGHT I'd seen the DJ avatar of you before. I'll go check out your Vimeo avatar.
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