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Cutting Class: You Can Say That Again!
Dubbing your dialogue on the desktop
Hosted by Chris 'Ace' Gates, Emmy Award Winning Editor
SEASON: 1 EPISODE: 108 RELEASE DATE: NOVEMBER 5, 2007
There are times when the editor faces the challenge of having great looking footage with really poor audio. There are many solutions to this problem, but sometimes the best option is to replace the dialog altogether. In this episode, Chris "Ace" Gates shows how ADR, or dubbing, is a tangible solution in the edit bay.
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You can say that again... Yeah there's nothing easy about bad audio, but you hit the nail on the head with the demo...Great job "ACE"
I like the little black & white cartoon pictures used in the old classic movies. Does Digital Juice sell the cartoon charactors on their website? They have that classic 1950s look about the cartoon charactors..
Thanks Ace & crew -
Well presented and explained. I'll probably (based on this clip) venture into my audio app instead of just playing in my video time line now.
5 stars
Great overview of the ADR process. If you find yourself doing this a lot, there is at least one software solution that will radically speed up the process of aligning the audio clips, it's called VocAlign.
http://www.synchroarts.co.uk/products/vocalign/vocalign-project.asp
There's no way I would plan to ADR more than a few minutes of audio using the manual approach - it would be like image tracking or rotoscoping without automated tools.
Keep up the great work Ace, I really enjoy this series.
I needed that info a little while back. I didn't think about doing each syllable individually. I kept doing takes until I got all of it real close. As usual, good stuff.
Very educational! I will be viewing this again several times!
By the way...
It sure is nice to see you in one piece again! How did you get your head back on so well? Did it hurt?!? I thought it was blown to smitherines!! But thank God you're alright. I was concerned there for awhile. Now I can sleep at night.
Having participated in looping, this is perfection above the call of duty. Most performers can do a full line of looping well enough to pass muster with an audience. However, if the track is really sick, this is a way to do it. Having supervised dubbing from English to Spanish, I was amazed at the way in which those that do this for a living write the new script to fit and the performers match the English track almost exactly. And they get it in one or two takes.
And I thought pixel pushing could get tedious. This takes the cake. Really appreciate the audion guys job.
Nice work Ace... One thing I have to remember is to record background audio before filming...
Thanks DJTV,
Mh
While most of my projects focus on video editing, I really enjoy playing with sound design on the projects that do need it. This made a lot of sense and took the mystery out of ADR. Thanks! I really enjoy all of the DJTV pieces! And inspiration in quaility productions!
I did some ADR work for an Action Film Workshop this summer and it was a GREAT experience. Thanks for clarifying and making some necessary professional notes!! 5 stars!
It is good to see that you have your head back on straight. Good segment. I had to go over twice to understand it. Now I know why I bought the sound forge and acid apps. Thanks, Chris.
I was a sound guy before I got into video. Thanks for acknowledging the work that goes into dubbing, etc. Sometimes the sound editing folks don't get enough credit for the "magic" they do. You're tutorial gives an nice glimps into what it takes... good ears and patience.
This was great. I have done dubbing by grabbing voice from an out take and also replaced just one word. I didn't realize that grabbing individual words was being done. I always wondered how someone could do that good of a job. I guess that there is a good chance they didn't...it was the editor. Unsung Hero!
Wow, glad I don't have to use this technique now, but it will probably be helpful sometime in the future. I'll know where to start when I need this technique. Thanks.
Wow, glad I don't have to use this technique now, but it will probably be helpful sometime in the future. I'll know where to start when I need this technique. Thanks.
Excellent Job Ace! Very useful information and the show was long enough to really give the steps necessary to learn from it. Definietly will be watching again when I need to do this.
Well done! I really needed information like this to help with my productions. There have been plenty of times when the clip that I have shot has horrible audio. More often then not I've just trashed the clip and moved on. Now I'm excited to try out this technique ASAP. Keep it up professor.
good episode. without audio...we might as well be in the charlie chaplin days! that is why it is vital to always verify proper levels even after they have been double checked...that will save you hours in the edit bay on a very avoidable problem.
keep up the good work DJ.
Hats off...excellent class!
I do a huge amount of audio only and combined video recording and find that I often have to use these techniques. Many times I'm left with no access to the talent or no time to get into the suite, so I'm left with "reconstructing" audio from existing or archived captures looking for the right words, right inflections, etc. Very time consuming but ultimately, very satisfying when it comes out right.
Thanks, again.
Here's an additional trick: you can cut up the bad dialog into short chunks or even single sentences in FCP, then smoothly export those to itunes and your ipod, with or without video. The ipod has settings for repeating single tracks automatically until you advance. Hand the ipod to your talent in the booth and let them repeat over the itunes tracks until you get some good overdubs. If you're going to use a video ipod, you could first blow up and re-frame the face/mouth of the speaker in the shot in FCP before the export, to make it easier for talent to watch the mouth on that tiny screen. Some people like the visual cue, some find it distracting and they just want to hear the audio. Having both options is nice.
The ipod can be used this was also as a "poor man's EarPrompter", if you think about it a little.
Thanks again Ace.
I haven't been doing any ADR as such, but being scared-to-death that I'll miss some of the dialog in the training stuff I shoot, I've been recording with a mid-quality Digital Voice Recorder as well as having the audio track in the camera.
I have played mix and match with the two sources to get the best possible audio for the projects. I've also done the occational "punch-in" as the narrator/host to cover things I can't fix otherwise.
Now with this idea, I have another tool in my kit!
-Mike
Awesome instructions! You're the best Chris, and I never cease to be amazed at how well you teach fairly complicated things so well in just a few minutes.
Once again, very well done. Clear, concise, informative, and entertaining. Great job look forward to the next cutting class.
This is a really great tip. But this seems more of a topic for Jeff and Audio Buzz. Never tne less this is a great piece of information. This is something I had never thought about, the cutting of the mulriple takes to make one complete take.
Excellent. Thanks for the information. Why didn't you cover Soundtrack Pro's dialog replacement tools? Overall, very great!!
Brilliant! I've often moved audio around in my NLE to fix takes or parts of takes but this is a much more refined (and TEDIOUS) method that will bode well for some upcoming productions.
PS. LOVE the "infomercial" flash backs, reminds me of my misspent youth in the Canadian public school system back in the 70's. AH, the sound of a 16 mm projector whirring in the background, ripping the sprockets out of training films...
Your "talent" is hilarious with his animated reactions...LOL
I have used the audio editor for something like this on music remixing...but man, after looping a single word over and over for an extended time, it can drive you batty....I suggest making time for plenty of breaks to help keep your sanity...LOL
This was an amazingly detailed tutorial, and very informative.... great job Ace....and your "talent" guy is still cracking me up....and the "DUBS" and "RIMS" comment in the beginning had me rolling...
Glad I didn't cut this class... Superb episode - However at the opening I really was looking forward to your head disappearing? Can't figure why though???
I have no experience with Cross looping, and some other technology you mentioned from my audio App - would love to know more!
Excellent episode - You can say THAT again!
a good FYI but seems very time-consuming for someone with a little volunteer time.