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Field of View: The Cutting Room Floor
The importance of screening, critique and revision in the production process
Hosted by Chuck Peters
SEASON: 1 EPISODE: 103 RELEASE DATE: JANUARY 24, 2007
More isn't always better. Sometimes expanding your Field of View means saying no to the good so you can say yes to the best.
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Maximiliano Belli
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The advice about putting away for a day or two is dead on Chuck. I'm cutting a multi-scene short film and treating each scene as a separate FCP sequence, almost like a film within a film. Sometimes I'll make 2 or 3 versions of the scene. I let it sit a day or two and then come back. When I come back to it, things I thought weren't working often work really well and things I thought were amazing often aren't that impressive any more. The distance is crucial.
Cooking is a perfect metaphor, as the flavors begin to meld and coalesce over time. The same is true for our creative juices.
It really made me think of what sort of material I leave in... just because I shot it. I always throiugh of myself as being quite brutal when I cut my own material. Clearly, in retrospect, I need to be more brutal.
I really like the emphasis you put on small video producers, like us at home, much of the YouTube population. It's important for people to realize that they should shave down their videos, even though I guess YouTube is a bad example of a short film hosting and networking website. Thanks for the message, though.
I have not had a chance to watch any FoV episodes until today, and I am blown away. I not only feel like I will make better videos, but I feel like a better person after watching this. There is so much wisdom that is so deeply rooted in many parts of our lives. "Say no to the good, so you can say yes to the best." How many marriages would be better if this advice was followed? Anyway, I really appreciate all you have to say. A lot of times deadlines cramp this kind of thinking. People want something fast, but so much quality is sacrificed when creative people can't be creative. Thank you.
And by the way, I like the facial hair.
Chuck, Im not great with words. But I like the approach you had in "Take 5" as well as your new way of approach in "Field of View". Im a somewhere in between novice and intermidate I suppose. But I have to say, when I first came to DJs website it was "Take 5 with Chuck Peters" that made the impression that had me coming back for more and more. You made me feel like getting where I wanted to be wasnt as difficult as I had made it out to be. Thanks Chuck and the rest of y ou guys.... keep it going. And I want to give props to the team of decision makers at DJ. I feel you guys truely have the customers and site members in mind. Not just prophet alone.
I think these videos are really good, but as a Youth Leader at my church, I cannot help but compare them almost exactly to the Nooma Christian devotion videos with Rob Bell. Everything from camera filters to the conversational script. I am not saying that is wrong, but would you say this was your inspiration for the style of the shoot.
Marcus
TransplantMinistries.com
This was great advice Chuck...and so true! I always offer a pre-viewing of my work to my colleagues before release...It is a must in my book.
I loved the metaphor of creating a stew to creating a video...and the music set a nice feel. Great work!
Someone needed to say that. Thanks, Chuck!
I like the new format. A bit reminiscent of Nooma. My only criticism is that it may have been a touch drawn out (my high school kids may not have made it to the end). Nevertheless, Chuck & Digital Juice bring great things to the table!
Chuck,
Thank you for the encouragement and advise. I like the new style you have for this season (FOV). They looked less commercial and more like film. In the previous episodes(Take 5),you looked more like a handsome sales man. In the new episodes, you look like a very relatable film maker that talk to us as friends.Your sentimental style with Proper use of film language blend in with story and teaching has really make this unique! Your teaching is more on buliding good roots for gerat projects instead of just techincal talk. I truly appreciate that!
Posted on 1/25/2007 by Marcia Tao
Very cool Chuck! I agree a lot of people need to hear that it is OK to throw some really good stuff away so what you are left with is the BEST not just really good.
Very good video. Once again a reminder that we can't get too posesive about our footage.
Great work and keep up the good job.
Superb content and great metaphor. The soft-edge frame and fire effects detracted a bit for me. It is obvious you shot a lot more than you released, so you walked your talk.
Thanks for this fabulous example.
This has got to be the best produced episode I've seen yet. Simple, sharp, challenging and humbling. Thanks Chuck.
An emotion video on editing? Good greif you almost had me crying. By the way, what type of camera was used? Good Job.
Awesome is too simple of a word. This was a beautiful video, with an awesome message. I agree with Bill Channell in the first comment...the message here (and in all your shows) are so much more important than the shooting, but at the same time you totally envelope & enrapture me with the beautiful shots and chemistry of the music and all of the elements. Thanks for this show. Don't stop.
Chuck,
I really enjoyed it, and I am looking forward to more episodes.
It offers me great insight and an opportunity to learn.
Thanks!
Thank you Chuck. This Field of View came at just the right time. I've been working on a two episode documentary for over a year and have just started the editing for the second episond. We have so much good footage. Soooo much. And of course I subjectively think it's all good. And you were right on. It's soooo hard to cut and junk good stuff. But I need to do it and you gave me the inspiration to cut the good footage and go only for the gold standard. It's an excellent point of view and I had stubbornly overlooked this wisdom. Thanks again.
David Klimek
Chuck,
Great stuff here... Your content is always spot on... The "pace" of the edits still seem un-natural to me... perhaps I am just used to the fast pace of Broadcast TV... perhaps this has the intention of being more like a big screen film...
You know how it is... you do something for a while and then something comes along and rubs what you are used to... and it makes you stand back and look at it closely....
In any case... This one was really nice in terms of content... messages were clear and concise and including "stand ins" in the scene was a perfect idea... Great stuff... just still trying to get used to the gentle pause between what I would consider natural edit points...
Again... great stuff...
Dave
Hmm...video production and cooking up a batch of stew. I like that! Rather than continue to comment on this production, I would to contribute a few more ideas.
Anyone who seriously wants to edit well needs to leave their ego at the door and adopt the attitude that they are way to close to their work to be able to objectively critique it.
When it comes to the many aspects of sounds and images that create or sustain an emotion or perk curiosity, there are many elements at play. Some of those elements might be consciously derived while others are not.
How often some of us have heard a comment that addresses an issue or concern that we were not aware of or considered.
Chuck, you have probably awakened a few editors in how critically important it is to see what others see.
Thank You.
This was a very good video. I liked the self-refleciveness of it. I liked the suggestions. I did not like the use of the flames on the cuts where there were no camp fires.
I give this five stars for content, but the sound level of the music was a bit too high in places. Made it a little hard to follow once in a while.
I usually plan on two hours of video (good video)for each half hour segment when I produce a video. I have a lot of stuff for the floor, and have even used some for different subjects. Right now I am working on a Route 66 video, which took three weeks to film on the road,and when done it will be an hour program for public access TV.
A similar one I did on the Polar Bears of Manitoba had 20 hours of tape for a half hour program. It won me a "Telly" award, so yes, more is not better. Better is better.
When doing regular photography (I do professional fine art photography), I find that one shot on 36 exposure role of very carfully composed scenes is a good roll for 35mm. One shot in ten for a medium format camera, but I always hope for one out of two with and 8 x 10 or 5 x 7 camera, so don't be afraid of throwing your "good Stuff" out
Chuck,
You have hit the nail on the head! I agree with you and I am glad you came forward and spread the word. Just because you spent hours shooting it does not mean you need to keep every bit of footage in the final cut. The "who, what, where" concept applies to the story line. If the footage goes beyond the bottom line of the story it will simply bore the audience. They are looking for the true flow of the story, not the overflow of your shots.
Paula
W.S.Studios
San Marcos, CA
After reading the above comments, I just wanted to add another .02 - I don't feel the piece was to long, or should have been edited "tighter". The pacing was needed to fit that style (very well, imho) and kept it from being just another faster-paced message. I know today, it's often quicker, faster, more, NOW, but this is the type of message that needs a slower pace. Time to think, and digest the thoughts. I can't praise them enough for choosing this style - and covering these topics. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
Chuck,
You are one of the very few people that thinks along the exact same lines like myself. Only wish more people did. I need to show some of my production buddies this episode. I'm currently editing a trailer, and the Director wants to put in all this stuff thats not necessary. Sure its cool...but it doesn't further the story. I tried telling him weeks ago the exact same message you said. Just wish people would listen to me more. I need to come work over at Digital Juice. Its the exact kind of company I would be proud to work for. Keep up the great work!!!
My opinion is usually kept to myself. However, I must express that Digital Juice TV is excellent, and the new video by Chuck Peters is top drawer. The video shows that to be a real professional you have to stand back and look at your work through the eyes of others, and, no matter how wonderful a scene is, or how much you want a scene, if it’s awkward, doesn’t fit, or just doesn’t add to the story, leave it out.
The video by Chuck Peters “Field of View: The Cutting Room Floor” is right on.
My rating is a “5 Star.”
Donald Clyne
Chuck Great Job.
You have interesting pacing and feel to your Field of View videos. I am so glad that you bring up such topics; they are much needed. I wish I would have seen this video a few years ago, because I had to learn the same thing the hard way with time. Your show encourages me to constantly add to the video service that I am doing, try new things, and open my mind to new ideas that were not even said in the videos.
Anyway Love all your shows and watch them with great hunger! Thanks
Keep hitting the nail on it's head!
Thnks again Chuck! What I love about FOV is that it is entertaining while being informative and most importantly thought provoking and causes me to look deep into myself and what I am producing. Thank you for helping me become better at what I do and produce more polished videos.
Chuck,
Have you been watching the video series produced out of Grand Rapids, MI by the group called NOOMA?
This is great content and sadly overlooked by many.
I'm not going to post many comments because I'm afraid I'm ALWAYS going to give 5 stars...but THIS is how teaching should be done. The old model of education in America is DEAD with a CAPITAL "D". And the MOST EXCITING thing is that the students can do the teaching themselves, with, of course, guidance. But the role of the teacher is, no, HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
Great work...I, for one, am excited to be here!
John
Chuck,
Looks simply amazing! I'm more of a filmmaker than a content editor, so this series seriously appeals to me. Really enjoy the beautiiful images / location shots throughout (as well as the non-"presentational" concept (real-life tasks, etc.). The shallow depth-of-field looks awesome. What lens attachment(s) are you using (if any)? Looks like an M2 or Movietube w/ some longer lenses. What effects/plug-ins are you throwing-in in post to obtain filmic looks? (I like the vignetting around the perimeter of the frame. Is that part of a plug-in (or mask)?)
Simply inspiring!
Hey Chuck
Thanks for sitting down and chatting with me about editing . . . NO WAIT we didn't do that but it felt like that.
Watching FOV, I am left with the feeling of having had a relaxing chat with a buddy who just has that little piece of advice or cool insight that just makes sense
Thank dude
KEEP SAYING WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID
Dave
This was my first ever episode of FOV.
You are definately the Rob Bell of DJTV! (And that's a compliment) - I thought I'd be the first to tell you that, but a quick search shows that I am NOT the first - oh well - you're still VERY good at what you're doing here. Loved the episode - looking forward to seeing more! Great work!